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Duration Tmes?

Postby RunrigCorvusCoraxFan » Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:31 am

I have Anam on cassette/CD. According to inlays.....

Rí Na Cruinne

3:58

Anam

4:00

In Fortunes Hand

3:52

The Poison Glen

3:51

Wilderness

2:04

Why Worry?

4:25

Úirchill An Chreagáin

4:18

Love And Affection

4:54

You're The One

3:52

Dobhar

2:42


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But when I play it on pc.

1 = 4:04

2 = 4:05

3 = 3:57

4 = 3:56

5 = 2:06

6 = 4:28

7 = 4:28

8 = 4:59

9 = 3:57

10 = 2:42

Now I have In Fortunes Hand on CD, and it states for 10 is 2:36, and 3 as 3:52. What are correct times? = CD comes as 38:42, but it seems when I play cassette, it seems shorter. Unless someone can send me a file that has correct times On reissue, timings are again different.
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Re: Duration Tmes?

Postby Phantas » Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:56 pm

The times stated on the cd for Anam are indeed incorrect. The tracks run longer than stated on the album sleeves. I've noticed that myself but don't really care. I always take the track running time as it is when you play it if I'm compiling songs, so it's not a bit thing for me. :) I don't know the exact times though!
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Re: Duration Tmes?

Postby RunrigCorvusCoraxFan » Tue Jan 17, 2012 4:03 pm

I care; when I add them to MP3 player. :p

If a album had a song that played a song 4:00, and stereo played at 4:00, and when you play on pc, it was 4:05 you'll be quite annoyed. :p
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Re: Duration Tmes?

Postby Angoid » Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:12 pm

Hi RunrigCorvusCoraxFan,

Like Phantas, I don't think I'd be annoyed if I found that a track that was supposed to last 4:00 actually lasted 4:05, unless I was relying on it in some way to be the stated length (for instance, making a video sequence timed to the last second and wanting particular scenes at particular points in the music, or timing the sequence to end with the music, and so on). In fact, I'd probably hardly notice.

Can you say why this is inmportant to you? If we know why this is an issue, it could be that someone can help you with what you're trying to achieve or provide some kind of workaround for you.
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Re: Duration Tmes?

Postby wonky_eggs » Sat Jan 21, 2012 8:39 am

I've noticed this on many, many CDs over the years. Usually the timings are only a few seconds out. I just put it down to whoever making a note of the timings at the record company either mis-counting/mis-typing, or the pressing of the album in the factory causing the difference. If the difference is more than a few seconds then it's probably down to either a mis-type by the record company/sleeve designer or a last-minute change to the album, such as substituting one version of a song for another, which can happen as often songs are recorded in several takes and the 'best' one chosen for release.

Most of the time it's no big issue.
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Re: Duration Tmes?

Postby RunrigCorvusCoraxFan » Sun Jan 22, 2012 10:51 pm

I guess. Maybe I'm weird....
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Re: Duration Tmes?

Postby Angoid » Mon Jan 23, 2012 8:54 am

It could also be due to discrepancies between time-keeping of the equipment used to record the music, and the equipment used to play it back.
As an exercise for the reader, you could try doing the following caclulation for each track:

D = Tp / (Tp - Ts)

where Tp = Time the track takes to play (Playback time)
Ts = Stated running time on the album cover

and see if D works out to pretty much exactly the same for each track. If so, then it'll be an equipment timing discrepancy.

There could also be rounding issues: for example, if a track is indicated as running for 4:04, this could be out by plus or minus a half a second.
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