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Would you want Moya to be more successful commercially?

PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2003 9:00 pm
by noodle
Hi all,

Just a thought I've always had on non-pop artists. In my opinion, I think Moya has done very well for herself (as have most of the Brennan family lol!), though I can never tell whether she looks to become more successful sales-wise.

For me, it is the criticism an artist receives that is important. I think becoming too well-known is destructive to creativity and to one's everyday life. Sinéad O'Connor - who retired from the music business this year - had said that she wanted to be known alongside the likes of Christy Moore and Mary Black. These respected artists who are known mainly in their own country and have contributed much to the world of music, because they have little to restrict their creative output.

Gosh, I could go on for ages but I won't! I basically hope Moya garners the acclaim she deserves, and that she will never have to be forced to produce an album or to go on an exhausting promotional tour for the sake of commercialism. (But please keep those concerts coming :P )

OK I'll keep quite now :roll:

PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2003 9:35 pm
by Jim
I could not agree with you more, Noodle! (As if I EVER disagree with you.) :P

Perhaps I’m showing my age (I’m 43), but in my opinion, most of what you hear on commercial radio these days isn’t worth the CD plastic it’s burned onto. Yes, there are a few gems in the rock pile, but you must search long and hard to find them. I, for one, don’t want Moya to get lost in the rock pile!

Wishing Moya all the success

PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2003 9:39 pm
by Richard Fethers
Hi Noodle,
You raise an important point and one that has me concerned not only for Moya but all those who have talent as musicians/ entertainers.
The world of music and entertainment as we know it is changing dramatically. Much in part to the technology of the web and downloading.
The good news is we get to hear first hand and nearly real time information on musicians/ entertainers and their songs etc.
The bad news is that the intellectual property in the form of songs that take hours to produce can be pirated and little or no return go to those who have worked so hard. Gone are the days of the 60's, 70's and 80's where artists received abnormal returns for their success.
I am concerned that musicians like Moya seeing that returns are diminished are going to say "to hell with it" and use their talents somewhere else where they can get a return. Or not be able to invest in valuable recording time when future income is uncertain.
With that said, I hope Moya gets the return from all of her hard work. Coming from a business background you hope its monetary. But it might be something else like recognition etc coming from a creative perspective. Whatever it is I hope Moya gets the return she deserves and continues to explore the type of music which we all enjoy.


PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2003 9:40 pm
by skippy
I would be delighted to see Moya's albums topping the charts - of course I would. It would mean plenty more people were sharing the same wonderful music we listen to. The pleasure of sharing a good feeling (like music) with others is hard to beat.

But commercial success seems to depend on many things, including what presenters choose to play on the more popular radio stations. There isn't always freedom of choice for these people and the best music often doesn't get played. Take Moya, Loreena McKennitt, Enya and Eva Cassidy for example. Many people still say 'who'?

Still, whatever! We all know what others are missing don't we!

PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2003 3:57 am
by Ageless Messanger
I voted for this one, I'm not worried, she's done fine, because I think Moya is doing fine. Just my humble opinion.


PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2003 6:14 am
by Sandy
Ageless Messanger wrote:I voted for this one, I'm not worried, she's done fine, because I think Moya is doing fine. Just my humble opinion.


I must agree with you, Moya has done beautifully. I don't feel as though she would compromise the quality of her work by becoming overly commercial. (At least I hope not!)

I really would like for more people to discover her music, though! She truly has a gift for it. :D



PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2003 8:57 am
by Endymion
I will say that Moya deserve the same recognition than Enya,because she have entered in many others works,and for me isn't matter how much her music sells since it is always there for me to listen it.
Its sad :( that almost the popular radios only pass noises,and not real music.
Thats why hip hop has been very popular this days (yuck :? :shock: I hate hip hop,for me its a ugly music),maybe in the future will appear an artist that could put New Age and hip hop together???Maybe.We never knows.

My vote

PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2003 5:44 pm
by gregoing
Hi, everyone. I think Moya deserves the same recognition as Enya (although I'm pretty sure we all know Moya's not in it for fame, money, glory, or recognition - it's just that we, her fans, want her to have that recognition! Fame, money, and glory can corrupt people a lot, so in a way, I'm glad Moya doesn't have such an excessive amount of those things as more well-known artists such as some American country singers and boy bands.), and that's what I voted for.

I hope no one misunderstands how I feel. Moya is an awesome artist and I know she'll stay that way. I don't suddenly dislike her because I don't want her to become too rich or famous. It's just that too much of almost anything can be bad for anybody - even me and you!

I think with more promotion and the likes, Two Horizons would be a pretty good candidate for the New Age Grammy, which would be a good thing for her, even though she's not a New Ager.


PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 2:46 pm
by LibraryJim
The problem with being more successfully commercially is that then one tends to pay more attention to what is selling in the commercial market, and many a great indie artist has fallen prey to the 'top 40 sound' pressure and has just become another sound-alike.

Let Moya and Enya and Loreena and others keep their individuality. They will sell well enough without going 'commercial.


Jim E. <><

Moya in Finland

PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 3:24 pm
by cantilena91
Here in Finland quite many of Enya's albums have been on the top 40 chart (especially when the LOTR CD and May It Be came out), but unfortunately Moya and Clannad are fairly unknown and haven't done it into the charts! A big pity I think, since her voice is so great... I don't know if the situation would become better with a better promoting though!


PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 5:29 pm
by altennis
No ,not Moya. She is just perfect where she is at right now . Her music is special . Her music should only be spread through word of mouth. U2 is a great example why she should not .I used to listened to them alot , now I cannot stand them.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 5:59 pm
by Endymion
But if her music goes to the top 10 she can earn more money and more money could mean more songs with better quality and more videosongs etc etc etc in the future.
I know that money isn't all but helps a lot to give more quality and life to her work,and I know that her work have quality and life but if have more it would be superb for us and for her.
I hope you understand me.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 6:05 pm
by Jim
LibraryJim wrote:The problem with being more successfully commercially is that then one tends to pay more attention to what is selling in the commercial market, and many a great indie artist has fallen prey to the 'top 40 sound' pressure and has just become another sound-alike.

Let Moya and Enya and Loreena and others keep their individuality. They will sell well enough without going 'commercial.


Jim E. <><

That was precisely what I was driving at! Thanks, LJ! This is one reason I support independent music (besides being an amateur musician myself).

PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 6:11 pm
by Endymion
Independent music it depends of the artist itself and not depends of the commercial market.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 6:52 pm
by Phantas
I'm not worried about Moya, or her career (to put my two eurocents into the bin). Let's face it kids ( :wink: 8) :lol: ), the music that's coming out of the industry these days isn't worth it really, and in particular the artists that make the music aren't worth it!
One good example of BAD music, which, unfortunately, is very popular is "Lumidee" . She sings - excuse me, wails out of tune and the music is just the same old r&b beat. Been there, done that, seen it before. And that's exactly what the music scene is about these days: copying each other until you drop. UNFORTUNATELY.

Even if we would TRY to make Moya's music more popular by means of hear say and listen, and by letting people hear her music, it will result to nothing because the younger audience (most of them anyway) is not waiting for the somewhat "slower" pace of her songs (or Enya's, or Loreena's or who else for that matter).
the kids(read: audiences) these days seem not to want to listen to this music, to open themselves up to the beauty of it, sadly.
They're much more into fast and furious, or slow and sexy. (I find that last one to be utterly disgusting, but that's a different matter altogether)

I often long back for the openmindedness of the 70's, 80's and early 60's if I'm correct. Everything was new back then, and people were aching to hear new things. Now, in this world where every artist seems to have thirteen copies waiting for him to take a hike. My guess is that this is one of the reasons why people download songs (illegally), because they feel the music isn't worth the price of the cd it's printed on.

Moya (and Enya etc) don't need the commerciality. They are rich already, and not by selling themselves out - by being who they are and being recognised for making wonderful, different music. They don't need the money either to make cd's, do video's etc.
Where current day artists need a producer to tell them which songs to use/sings etc (think of Idols), these REAL artists jsut simply need the inspiration, the idea and their fans who make it worthwile.